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    Adam Kay
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    Adobe-Ive mentioned here has already been significantly reduced. I can't give an opinion on the other stock because we don't hold it. Suffice to say it could do anything. It's a meme-stock and is being driven by emotion, not fundamentals. It's almost 30% short.

    You only need to look at other forums to see the pitfalls playing out in real time.

    It’s like watching a blindfolded dart thrower aim for a bullseye… in a tornado

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      Adam Kay
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      Charles tweets Elon. One criticism is that Charles Liang doesn't shout about their achievements. You literally can't keep Michael Dell quiet and it is a pet peeve of mine. Is this a change in policy? Btw this isn't a hint. This is what is called a BIM. A Building Information Model. And as you can see this is only a part of it. SM manufacture the cooling tower you seee in the background. I believe these racks are being installed as we speak. The total installation is around 20X bigger than this image. We do not know for certain how much of it is SM work but it's at least 50% and likely more because it's 100% DLC.

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        Adam Kay
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        I read that SM installed all the cabling on this project. 15,200 miles of high end fibre and the big metal box in the background, the Cooling Tower-400 of those, in fact 100% of the entire project is SM DLC-2-even Dells racks are cooled by SM. And people are wondering why they need to raise cash-they've been carrying this cost around since the beginning of the year. Next quarter it all drops-in 🙂

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          Glad to hear it, I can see good things ahead once they emerge from the 'woods' 😊

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            All👂 5 August

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              a sneak peak at the cabling-interesting, perhaps only because it cost somewhere between 1.2-1.5 billion and it's difficult to comprehend 'thousands of miles of the stuff' Whoever installed it, made some nice margin for sure!

              Imagine calling the supplier hi we need some cable-the good stuff. OK how many metres do you want , umm 24 million metres (snigger). Alrighty then that'll be 1.1 billion-how will you be paying?

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                A big move up in the price today ….looking very positive

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                  @Adam-Kay: don’t say a word!! 😄

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                    Too late! Well it was up earlier, but down a bit now, but I totally expected that - people taking profits.

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                      As many know, they report tonight. Generally, I'm bullish, however it's very difficult to arrive at 'a figure' with any degree of accuracy. Suffice to say the factors which impact their business are all looking very positive.

                      Analyst consensus is for a Q4 revenue figure of around $5.9B and EPS around 40cents. I am far more interested in the Q1 guide and their EPS guide, which should be at least $1B ahead and my wish list is +$1.5B. This would be around $7.5B at the midpoint(analyst consensus is $6.18B and 60c-they will surely blow that away (it's feasible they manage 90c). I also think GM improved during Q4 and should improve further in Q1 and beyond.

                      Expect management to talk about the market moving rapidly to liquid cooled solutions and in particular their DLC-2 being the market leading solution. Updates on DLC capacity, hoping for 3k racks per month, new DC deployments being 30-35% DLC and SM's market share being 65-70%.

                      I was away in sunny Spain last week

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                        Have you had chance to digest and pick the bones from the figures etc from last night yet Adam …thanking you in advance

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                          Have you had chance to digest and pick the bones from the figures etc from last night yet Adam …thanking you in advance

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                          @Ducati996R said in SMCI:

                          Have you had chance to digest and pick the bones from the figures etc from last night yet Adam …thanking you in advance

                          Ha - I came here to ask that very question! 😊

                          EPS was 41 cents against 44 expected.
                          Revenue $5.76bn against $5.89 expected.

                          Shares are down by around 14% today (unsurprisingly).

                          Revenue for current quarter is "$6-7bn" - somewhat vague.

                          But these are simple figures; there will be a story behind them which Adam will pick out much better than I ever could.

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                            I listened to the call last night. The main thing I wanted to see was margin being improved and it was flat. I can live with the revenue although I also wanted to see +1.5B at the midpoint i.e a $7-$8B guide. All told we made 200% realised and a further 71% unrealised (real time) based in dollars so a few points +/- on the fx.

                            For me this earnings call was their opportunity to back up the talk with action. They didn't have a lot of conviction in their statements. I'm very happy with the returns over a short period of time but with questions remaining over their margin expansion and other opportunities I don't think it's a long term hold.

                            With all investment decisions there is opportunity cost and another big factor for me is a management team who have a very clear view of their execution plan and the sector they operate in.

                            I think SM management lack the visibility. But in saying that, SM earn more money than HPE and Dell. Dell in particular are making almost nothing from their AI racks...2% net.

                            What I see with AI servers is a primary mover, being Nvidia, racing at such a pace with annual updates(architecture), their ODMs are finding it difficult to keep pace, not to mention expensive.

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                              There are new opportunities being worked up and in due course we will let you know

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                                As always appreciate your insights

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                                  Thanks @Adam-Kay 👍

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                                    I'll second that. Thanks Adam. It's a helpful summary, and reassuring to know that there is an IC keeping an eye on what's coming off the boil and what's next to make some money.

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