Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Simplex)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Cobens Direct
  1. Home
  2. Investments and Portfolios
  3. SMCI

SMCI

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Investments and Portfolios
176 Posts 18 Posters 2.3k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A Offline
    A Offline
    Adam Kay
    Global Moderator
    wrote last edited by Adam Kay
    #166

    Let's see how close our thoughts are on what he announces at Computex in 10-12 days. It's very easy to think their expenditure is up, profits down but fail to understand why:

    Fiscal Year 2024: R&D spend $463 million, a substantial 50% increase from FY 2023. 2025 to date(3 quarters) is $452M. They are cooking us something important.

    Charles Liang's discussion of DLC-2 likely refers to Supermicro's "Datacentre Building Block Solutions" (DCBBS), a comprehensive, modular approach designed to streamline the construction and operation of AI-ready data centres. This initiative aims to significantly reduce deployment times and enhance efficiency in data centre operations.

    What Is DCBBS?

    Supermicro's DCBBS is a holistic solution that integrates various components necessary for modern data centres, including:

    AI compute hardware

    Servers and storage systems

    Networking infrastructure

    Racks and cabling

    Direct Liquid Cooling (DLC) systems

    Facility water towers

    End-to-end management software

    Onsite deployment services and maintenance

    This integrated approach allows for the transformation of smaller or older facilities in as little as six months, compared to the traditional three-year timeline for building new AI-ready data centres .

    What Makes It Unique?

    End-to-End Integration
    Most competitors offer piecemeal solutions—servers, cooling, or facility services separately. Supermicro combines:

    Hardware (AI compute, storage)

    Direct Liquid Cooling (DLC)

    Water towers and facility retrofitting

    Software and management tools

    Full deployment & support services
    → This "one-stop shop" model is rare in the industry.

    Accelerated Deployment Time
    Traditional data centers take 2–3 years to build or retrofit for AI. Supermicro claims DLC-2 deployments can be completed in 6 months—a major edge in a rapidly evolving market.

    Focus on AI-Ready Infrastructure
    With the explosion in generative AI and HPC (high-performance computing), cooling and density are critical. Their DLC technology allows high-density AI clusters with up to 40% power savings—tailored for AI, not legacy enterprise needs.

    Facility-Level Offerings (e.g., water towers)
    Most server companies stop at rack-level. Supermicro extends to infrastructure-level engineering—rare for a server vendor and appealing for customers who don’t want to coordinate multiple vendors.

    Branching out into services and full-stack solutions like DLC-2 is strategically smart and likely very positive for margins, especially for these reasons:

    Why Services Improve Margins

    Higher Gross Margins than Hardware Alone

    Traditional server hardware is a low-margin, competitive business (gross margins typically ~10–20%).

    Services — especially consulting, integration, cooling infrastructure, and ongoing management — often carry gross margins of 30–60%.

    Supermicro moving upstream into design, deployment, and facilities management lets it capture this premium layer.

    Recurring Revenue Streams

    Ongoing management, monitoring, support, and cooling infrastructure maintenance can generate recurring revenue, unlike one-time hardware sales.

    This creates more financial predictability and long-term customer lock-in.

    Bundling Power

    By offering a "one-stop shop," Supermicro can bundle solutions, increasing deal size and customer dependency — and reduce pricing pressure compared to commoditised hardware sales.

    This can help defend margins even as competition intensifies.

    Differentiation Reduces Price Wars

    Unlike Dell, HPE, or Lenovo (which largely still compete on specs and price), Supermicro’s unique full-stack data centre approach makes it harder to directly compare or undercut.

    That strategic differentiation supports better pricing power.

    Upsell & Cross-sell Opportunities

    Once Supermicro owns the physical and digital infrastructure, it’s in prime position to sell additional capacity, upgrades, or services — all with higher margins.

    Big Picture

    This evolution from hardware seller to infrastructure enabler shifts Supermicro up the value chain — much like how AWS began with servers and now dominates cloud services. If Supermicro executes well, this could materially boost long-term profitability and valuation multiples.

    Notable/interesting strategic partnerships:

    Eviden (an Atos business)
    Announced in March 2024, Supermicro and Eviden joined forces to distribute AI SuperClusters based on the NVIDIA GB200 NVL72 architecture across EMEA and South America. These clusters are optimised for training and inference of large AI models. Eviden has been selected as a vendor for Stargate

    VAST Data
    Supermicro and VAST Data announced their partnership in February 2024 to offer a unified AI platform that combines VAST’s disaggregated storage architecture, Supermicro’s high-performance servers, and NVIDIA GPUs. This platform simplifies deployment and scaling of AI pipelines.

    Motivair
    Supermicro has formed a strategic collaboration with Motivair to deliver direct liquid cooling (DLC) solutions, including use of Motivair’s Dynamic Cold Plate Technology. This supports high-performance computing workloads while reducing thermal loads in rack-scale environments, even in facilities without centralised chilled water.

    Sovico Group
    In September 2024, Supermicro signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Vietnam's Sovico Group to collaborate on AI data centre development. This partnership aims to support the build-out of an AI data centre ecosystem in Vietnam, aligning with Supermicro's DCBBS approach.

    Borealis Data Centre (Iceland/Finland)
    Announced in August 2024, Borealis Data Center now supports Supermicro for comprehensive post-sales services, enhancing its AI and High-Performance Computing (HPC) offerings. This collaboration provides AI enterprises with improved response times, high-quality service, and scalability, reinforcing Supermicro's Total IT Solution strategy.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
    • D Offline
      D Offline
      Ducati996R
      wrote last edited by
      #167

      Adam ..it’s very interesting reading your posts here and then reading what information is featured on line etc …just seen one this morning from Alpha whose headline was …SMCI un investable is an understatement….polar opposites….must really frustrate and annoy you

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • A Offline
        A Offline
        Adam Kay
        Global Moderator
        wrote last edited by Adam Kay
        #168

        It doesn't annoy me :). I'm used to seeing such articles. Written by attention seekers(and paid by others to write it) who have been consistently wrong on the industry and AI's obvious potential. This author wrote a scathing article on Broadcom in September 24 when the stock was $160(SELL rating)-months later the stock was $250. Called Apple a 'disaster' in May 2024($175) and the stock went on to $260 and issued a SELL report on Twilio in Dec 2022 when the stock was $48. Twilio exploded from that date to $150-We sold at $140 btw.

        The common denominator with these 'experts' is they churn out copious amounts of 'research'. Research is defined as 1 hour to formulate a narrative to support their, usually paid-for negative opinion. And that is what you need to understand. Most of this garbage is produced at the request of someone short. Someone with an agenda.

        Remember when at last Earnings Jensen Huang said ‘now that Blackwell is out you won’t be able to give Hopper away’

        This weekHuang said that, Supermicro got pinched by companies seeing Blackwell and Blackwell Ultra GPU systems, who didn’t cancel orders so much as push them out with the new and improved compute engines and interconnects that come with Blackwell machines.

        In other words SMCI took a hit from that comment and Huang acknowledged it!

        I think SMCI will be a big turn around story. I am quite sure they have XAi and Meta as customers, amongst others-there is some evidence they will supply the Stargate project. We know what these customers are spending. We know they want GB300 given its 40X increase in perf over GH200. I'm prepared to give them a couple of quarters to deliver that. This quarter should be good(June), September should be 'massive' (7-8B) and upwards significantly from there.

        Given we are in @$26.50, there is a nice margin of safety

        Edited to add: This investment in particular is classic Risk Vs Reward. Our risk is low, having already realised 200% so nobody can take that away from us, both literally and figuratively.

        As everyone knows, with quarterly reporting, anything goes when you are dealing with a fast paced industry, an architecture (iterations) changing annually. Quarterly results will be clunky but the trend is quite clear.

        You can not look at a headline gross margin and say 'it fell' = bad-well a financial illiterate will (my point) but what goes into 'gross margin' a whole lot of costs unassociated with the corresponding revenue. Factory improvement/depreciation, all factory labour cost and overhead, tooling. 20-30 million of costs plus $100M hopper provisions which may reverse. The company is spending a lot of money preparing for the big roll out. Given where we sit today, they now deserve a couple of quarters to show us their hand.

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • A Offline
          A Offline
          Adam Kay
          Global Moderator
          wrote last edited by
          #169

          Breaking news:

          DataVolt Announces Landmark Deal with Supermicro to Accelerate Adoption of Rack-Scale Total Liquid Cooling IT Solutions for Future-Ready AI Data Centres

          This announcement details a significant multi-year partnership between DataVolt, a Saudi Arabian data center company, and Super Micro Computer , a U.S.-based leader in energy-efficient server solutions. The agreement, valued at $20 billion, aims to accelerate the delivery of advanced GPU platforms and rack systems for DataVolt’s hyperscale AI campuses in Saudi Arabia and the U.S. Key points include:
          Strategic Alignment: DataVolt’s CEO, Rajit Nanda, highlighted the favourable business environment fostered by the Trump Administration and Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, emphasising renewable energy and net-zero green hydrogen power paired with cutting-edge server technology.

          Sustainability and Scale: The partnership leverages U.S.-made supply chains for GPU systems, enabling DataVolt to scale its investments while prioritizing sustainability.

          Innovation Hub: Supermicro’s CEO, Charles Liang, emphasised the collaboration’s role in advancing AI and compute infrastructure, supporting Saudi Arabia’s ambition to become a global technology hub.

          Take away: We spoke about their efficiency and the fact that they are the only US rack scale manufacturer which would have benefits. Great news for Supermicro. It's a huge endorsement for their best in class systems and will it be the first of many 'Saudi-region' deals.

          The stock is $42 in Pre-market

          Screenshot 2025-05-14 at 08.55.56.png

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • D Offline
            D Offline
            Ducati996R
            wrote last edited by
            #170

            Alpha maybe eating humble pie this week 😀

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • A Offline
              A Offline
              Adam Kay
              Global Moderator
              wrote last edited by Adam Kay
              #171

              Talk about eating a foot sandwich-timed to perfection.

              The over riding facts which only a fool would ignore are:

              SMCI make the best racks bar none, using a system that is in very high demand now and will soon be indispensable. If you aren't using DLC you aren't making a viable data centre. Anyone who says AI racks are a commodity and 'anyone can build them' is talking out of their rear. Efficiency matters when you're burning $2M/day in power costs. A current NVL-72 is hoovering 130KW/hr, even at 12c/kwh thats $16/rack per hour or $384/day. Musk will scale to 1 million chips within 8 months(Xai)-thats $5.3M per day in power. If you can buy a rack which saves up to 40%(power) don't you think it will be a strong proposition. Clear some have different views but there is an idiot born every minute.

              1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • E Offline
                E Offline
                exIM
                wrote last edited by
                #172

                Excellent info again Adam, loving your geeky side 😁

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • A Offline
                  A Offline
                  Adam Kay
                  Global Moderator
                  wrote last edited by
                  #173

                  👨‍🏫

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • A Offline
                    A Offline
                    Adam Kay
                    Global Moderator
                    wrote last edited by Adam Kay
                    #174

                    The company has confirmed this week:

                    1. Increased DLC monthly capacity to 3,000 racks. Up from 2,000 in December. It's worth noting these are currently $3-$4M racks and will soon be 5-6M with GB300.

                    2. By December they will have $50B revenue run rate (capacity).

                    But it's not enough! NB: A new Saudi facility is approved, clearly a strong signal of many more projects in the pipe line.

                    Plans.

                    Silicon Valley Green Computing Park (B20-B23)
                    Rack-scale integration with liquid cooling

                    Datacentre BBS and cloud services-this part of SMCI 4.0 which will be discussed in detail next week at Computex.

                    APAC Science and Tech Centre (B62)
                    New land under negotiation for B63

                    Supermicro Malaysia Campus with partners
                    High-volume subsystem and rack-scale production online

                    Future site plans
                    New Silicon Valley facilities in progress (B31, B32)

                    New Silicon Valley facility in progress (#1081, Milpitas)

                    New BV (Netherlands) production facility in progress

                    New US site in plan – East Coast

                    New Saudi Arabia and other international sites in plan

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D Offline
                      D Offline
                      Ducati996R
                      wrote last edited by
                      #175

                      The future is bright …the future is SMCI…looking exciting and good for the share price

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • A Offline
                        A Offline
                        Adam Kay
                        Global Moderator
                        wrote last edited by
                        #176

                        clearly they are planning for way beyond $50B annual run rates.
                        Not speculation-they are Nr 1 in Generative AI systems and their AI side of the business grew 500% YoY.

                        I want to see them return to a tax paid Net margin of 10% min. I think with scale and DCAAS (DC as a service) they will. But I work off of, say $50B = $5B net

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        The value of your investments can go down as well as up, and you may get back less than you invested.

                        Cobens a trading name of Astute Financial Management UK Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Registered Address: 4th Floor Peek House, 20 Eastcheap, London, EC3M 1EB. Registered in England and Wales No. 5850981.

                        • Login

                        • Don't have an account? Register

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Tags
                        • Popular
                        • Users
                        • Groups