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    Adam Kay
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    ahem. Of late Mr O would suggest weeks or months. It's done well for years and has consistently outperformed all other Tech funds.👍 At least that I know of.

    You could show someone the numbers and they will say 'yep all tech has done well', as if to say, that's just tech. No it isn't, it's exceeded all benchmarks and all peers.

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      Ronski
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      When I first joined IM back in 2020 PHE was like the poster child, it had been what PHT is now, I invested in it, but it had seemed to have lost the umph, so I sold it in May 2024. I do still hold about £12.60 (dividends that came in), and it just seems to fluctuate up and down around that figure, my brother has stayed invested in PHE even though back then I suggested he moved it, only last week he was moaning that it wasn't doing well. I simply reminded him that I'd suggested he move his funds when I did, and that he should do it now.

      Whilst the individual portfolio's are managed, at the end of the day we managed what makes up our portfolio's and if we're not happy with how something is doing we have the option of moving it around, and hoping it goes in the correct direction.

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        dingg
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        Adam

        Re "Equity is pretty much in line with Fundsmith. It's always been highly correlated."

        My decision is already made

        But what Fundsmith ate you using as a comparator?

        According to google fundsmith equity has given a 0.8% return over the last 12 months

        According to my spread sheet phe is down a whopping 26.6% over the same time frame.

        Either your using a different comparison, my spreadsheets buggered or something else is awry.

        Tia

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          Adam Kay
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          Grant,

          I wasn't attempting to persuade you one way or the other. It's your choice, as always. And yes your figures are wrong. Perhaps your excel file hasn't taken into account the withdrawals you have made💡

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            dingg
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            Afternoon Adam
            Thanks for the clarification, you nailed it, I forgot to subtract my annual withdrawal, wot a muppet, too many beers last night.

            Ps I know you weren't trying to persuade me one way or the other, it's outside your remit.

            Cheers again and enjoy your weekend 👍

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              Adam

              Re "Equity is pretty much in line with Fundsmith. It's always been highly correlated."

              My decision is already made

              But what Fundsmith ate you using as a comparator?

              According to google fundsmith equity has given a 0.8% return over the last 12 months

              According to my spread sheet phe is down a whopping 26.6% over the same time frame.

              Either your using a different comparison, my spreadsheets buggered or something else is awry.

              Tia

              G

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              Ronski
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              @dingg said in PHE:

              According to my spread sheet phe is down a whopping 26.6% over the same time frame.

              I see you've found the answer, I did ask my brother and he said

              Oh dear.... -4.81% 17-Oct-24 to 17-Oct-25

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                dingg
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                Cheers Ronski

                That's saved taxing what little of the grey matter I have left 😉

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                  Adam Kay
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                  Netflix split their stock 10:1 last week. The custodian processed the changes 2 days later so if you are looking at the graph you will see a sharp drop and rebound due to the timing.

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                    Ronski
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                    That explains why my £12 something dropped down to £11 something, then went back up again.

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                      Tresco
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                      Any thoughts if it's worth soldiering on with PHE which is my worst performer over 5 years across a number of funds, I note Nik mentioned last year it was to be looked at. I understand it's 'buy and hold' but a low cost tracker would have produced significantly better returns.

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                        Jason Knowles
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                        If your not happy with it change it, I've got little money in the defensive fund which I think is relatively low risk and has paid about 8% in 2025 which I'm happy with as a low risk option.

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                          As Jason said, moving is always an option. I had about half my funds in PHE but have moved most of that out over the last year or so.

                          I'd be interested to see how it goes in the future but I think it's not for me at the moment.

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                            Adam Kay
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                            Anyone who holds a portfolio and has questions can contact either myself and or Nik. Many have. Discussions around suitability are very individual specific due to goals, age, risk appetite and time to retirement/time to draw down.

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