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    responded Mike, with the header(copy).

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      Next Tuesday you will hear from Jensen Huang and Kress (CFO). That will be the driver. I expect them to use many superlatives in describing not just excellent demand but accelerating demand. They could report revenue close to $60B but they are constrained so logic says closer to $56-57 and a guide well into the $60s. Imo it doesn't matter so long as margins are intact and they should be. The situation is if they had 100b in product they'd sell it but they don't (yet).

      My numbers are $57B and $1.26(margin 74)and a guide of $64B for Q4 with margins increasing 5-600bps to almost 75%

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      @Adam-Kay said in Thoughts on short term market direction:

      Next Tuesday you will hear from Jensen Huang and Kress (CFO). That will be the driver. I expect them to use many superlatives in describing not just excellent demand but accelerating demand. They could report revenue close to $60B but they are constrained so logic says closer to $56-57 and a guide well into the $60s. Imo it doesn't matter so long as margins are intact and they should be. The situation is if they had 100b in product they'd sell it but they don't (yet).

      My numbers are $57B and $1.26(margin 74)and a guide of $64B for Q4 with margins increasing 5-600bps to almost 75%

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        The guide is 65. Details tomorrow. Exceeded all expectations

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          You were definitely wrong Adam.

          Results were on Wednesday. Not Tuesday.

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            Jensen told me Tuesday. My bad

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              Jensen told me Tuesday. My bad

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              @Adam-Kay said in Thoughts on short term market direction:

              Jensen told me Tuesday. My bad

              😳

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                Guide margin 74.8. All gpu’s sold out-China irrelevant obvious. The 60-70-80 cadence is intact. Future up 400 points.

                Bubbles forming, private businesses, crowd strike, palantir, anthropic value sept 183 billion. Anthropic value Nov 350b- that’s an interesting valuation delta. However nvidia is not the same. Everything we own is grounded in rationality.

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                  I don’t watch TV news often but just happen to be in front of the BBC 10 O’clock news. They’ve just shown a live OB from Wall Street saying that the Nvidia revenue number for the three months to October is indeed $57b, a 62% hike.

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                    Curious, what happened today, was looking nice and green early afternoon, by 17:00 a see of red on PHT?

                    Just usual market weirdness or something else?

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                      Curious, what happened today, was looking nice and green early afternoon, by 17:00 a see of red on PHT?

                      Just usual market weirdness or something else?

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                      @Ronski said in Thoughts on short term market direction:

                      Curious, what happened today, was looking nice and green early afternoon, by 17:00 a see of red on PHT?

                      Just usual market weirdness or something else?

                      I'm interested in the answer to this one too...

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                        According to the Guardian, its the AI Bubble fears again.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/nov/20/stock-markets-ai-nvidia

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                          The market’s reaction to AI spending has been flat-out shortsighted. Investors want instant profit from something that, by design, requires massive upfront investment. It’s the same mentality that would look at a half-built city and complain it isn’t generating rent yet.

                          AI infrastructure isn’t a quick trade; it’s a multi-year buildout of compute, data pipelines, model capability, and product integration. Spending heavily now isn’t “wasteful” — it’s the cost of owning the future. Every major technological leap has followed this pattern: invest aggressively, endure a period where the cash flow looks ugly, then harvest the returns once the system is fully built and scaled.

                          Markets pretending this should behave like a consumer app launch are being irrational. You don’t build power grids, highways, or telecom networks for short-term comfort. You build them because once they’re in place, the monetisation becomes unavoidable and enormous.

                          It's not even as though the names selling off are even vaguely correlated to the perceived concern.

                          I see this as just a one of those market quirks. It will find something else to focus on in short order. Like rates 'cos jobs data was good'

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                            Well that nice little kick up yesterday morning has been followed by a (slightly larger) dip down this morning. I'm ever so slightly down on where I was two days ago.

                            Ho hum. In it for the long term and all that ... hopefully things will trend upwards over the coming couple of weeks. I look forward to the 'unavoidable and enormous monetisation'!

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                              Havnt posted here before and last was on PH. Anyway short term I get my fix from a 212 account. Most of funds are in with Corbens but to try and stop me chopping and changing as long holdings are clearly the best I play with some funds in 212 which then satisfies the stockmark genius delusion I have in sell sell and buy buy buy and min, hour, day trade.
                              Keep up the good work with Cobens. my PHT has done brill.

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                                Nice to see you back :).

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